Testing OpenAI o1-preview: Tetris, Physical Reasoning and a North Pole Error

In September 2024, Matthew Berman runs the new reasoning-model preview through a personal rubric and examines where its answers succeed or fail.

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Matthew Berman tests OpenAI o1-preview shortly after its September 2024 release, running prompts on Python Tetris, envelope dimensions, word counting and physical reasoning. He praises several answers while identifying a North Pole problem in which the model confuses the original starting point with the later turning point. The video also shows a subjective ethical question and an advanced mathematics answer that Berman does not independently verify. These are illustrative one-off tests, not a comprehensive evaluation or current ranking.

  1. 1Preview and TetrisThe model generates a playable Tetris demo in the run shown; Berman reports a previous run needed a correction.
  2. 2Envelope dimensionsThe model converts and checks the given dimensions, including their orientation.
  3. 3Cup and marbleThe model explains that the marble can remain on the table when the inverted cup alone is lifted.
  4. 4North Pole errorIts latitude-circle explanation returns to the turning point rather than the original pole.
  5. 5Unverified math answerThe preview returns 721 for a harder prompt; Berman does not independently check it.

Conclusiones

  1. The demonstrated Tetris program runs in a brief first-attempt play test, although that does not verify every game mechanic.
  2. The model checks the orientation of an envelope against the dimensions supplied in the prompt.
  3. Its inverted-cup answer distinguishes an object resting on the table from the cup that is lifted.
  4. In the North Pole test, the model mistakes the later turning point for the original starting point.
  5. The visible thinking text is a summary, while a subjective ethics judgment and an unchecked math answer require different evaluation from objective tasks.
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01

An early o1-preview coding test

Berman notes the similarity between an OpenAI example and his marble question, then tests a generated Tetris game. The displayed reasoning is a summary.

OpenAI’s strawberry-and-cup example
DIAPOSITIVA 1 / 5OpenAI’s strawberry-and-cup exampleBerman compares this launch example with the marble question in his own rubric.

In September 2024, Matthew Berman tries OpenAI’s newly released o1-preview against his informal language-model rubric. He notices an OpenAI launch example involving a strawberry beneath an inverted cup that closely resembles his own marble question. He speculates that the company may have seen his videos, but does not establish that connection.

Berman chooses o1-preview in ChatGPT and begins with a request for Tetris in Python. He notes that the visible thinking text is a summary rather than the model’s raw internal reasoning. This run takes about 35 seconds before output; he says a prior run took longer and initially produced code that needed a correction.

The new Tetris program runs on his first attempt, displays the next piece and score, and appears playable during the short demonstration. Berman considers it a pass and stronger than his previous test. A brief play session does not establish that all game mechanics are correct.

Generated Tetris demo
DIAPOSITIVA 2 / 5Generated Tetris demoThe displayed game includes a board, next-piece preview and score.
02

Dimensions, word count and puzzles

The model checks an envelope, counts its own words and considers the killers and inverted-cup scenarios. Berman scores individual outputs.

Next he asks whether a 200 × 275 mm envelope fits specified postal limits. The model converts the measurements, compares 27.5 cm and 20 cm with the given minimum and maximum dimensions, and answers yes. Berman praises it for considering orientation; the result applies to the restrictions in the prompt, not a current postal rule.

Envelope dimension check
DIAPOSITIVA 3 / 5Envelope dimension checkThe answer converts and compares the given envelope dimensions with the stated limits.

Asked how many words its response contains, the model returns “This response contains five words,” which Berman counts as five. He notes a previous correct run as well and interprets the result as evidence of reasoning, though two examples alone cannot establish how consistently it will succeed.

In the three-killers puzzle, a newcomer kills one person and nobody leaves. The model counts three living killers: two original survivors and the newcomer. It also notes that counting the dead person as a killer changes the interpretation, a nuance Berman welcomes.

The marble question places a marble in a cup, inverts the cup onto a table, and moves the cup to a microwave. The model recognizes that the marble could remain under the inverted cup if placed carefully and, if the cup alone is lifted, remain on the table. Berman praises the response for identifying assumptions rather than treating every physical step as unambiguous.

Inverted-cup reasoning
DIAPOSITIVA 4 / 5Inverted-cup reasoningThe response considers the marble resting on the table when the cup is lifted.
03

A North Pole mistake and more tests

The model confuses the original starting point with a later location. Berman then tries spelling, decimals, an ethics hypothetical and a mathematical prompt.

A North Pole question asks a person to travel one kilometer, turn left 90 degrees and walk until passing the original starting point. The model assumes an eastward latitude circle and computes roughly 2π km, but conflates the pole with the point one kilometer south. Berman marks the answer wrong: circling that latitude returns to the turn point, not the original pole.

North Pole response
DIAPOSITIVA 5 / 5North Pole responseThe model’s answer treats the turn point on a latitude circle as the starting point, leading to an incorrect conclusion.

The model supplies ten sentences ending in “apple,” counts three instances of the letter r in “strawberry,” and identifies 9.9 as greater than 9.11. Berman marks these as passes in the runs shown, without claiming a formal repeated evaluation.

For a hypothetical ethics question about gently pushing a person to prevent human extinction, the model initially discusses different ethical frameworks. When pressed for a yes-or-no answer, it says yes. Berman agrees with that judgment, while the test is an opinion about a hypothetical case rather than an objectively scored mathematics problem.

Berman tries a suggested advanced mathematics prompt. The model returns a formatted derivation and an answer of 721 after about 52 seconds; he says he cannot readily solve the problem himself, so the video does not independently verify the result.

Asked whether the chicken or the egg came first, the model answers that eggs existed before chickens in evolutionary history. Berman concludes that o1-preview is the strongest model he has personally tested and says it missed the North Pole problem. His conclusion reflects a small set of prompts and the September 2024 preview, not a current ranking or proof of overall reliability.

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