Allen Wang on the Silicon Valley Bank Crisis and Risks Still to Watch

ORIGINAL TITLE王怀南:硅谷银行危机之后,哪些风险仍需观察

Soon after the 2023 failure, Wang Huainan and Zhang Xiaojun discuss depositor protection, bank liquidity, and possible effects on the startup ecosystem.

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Aug 17, 2024
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Shortly after Silicon Valley Bank closed in 2023, Wang Huainan recalls an anxious weekend for founders and investors and discusses deposit protection, interest-rate shocks, banking services, and confidence risks. His assessments and predictions reflect his views early in the event. Fact check: California regulators closed the bank and appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) as receiver; all deposits were transferred to an FDIC-operated bridge bank. See the FDIC announcement: https://www.fdic.gov/news/press-releases/2023/pr23019.html.

  1. 1An anxious weekend for startupsWang recalls concern among Chinese investors and U.S.-dollar-backed startups about funds held at Silicon Valley Bank.
  2. 2Depositors and shareholdersAuthorities protected all deposits; shareholders and certain unsecured creditors did not receive the same protection.
  3. 3Three risks to watchHe identifies the bank’s resolution, bond and interest-rate shocks, and spreading loss of confidence.
  4. 4Liquidity and timingHe uses deposits and asset allocation to explain how banks can face pressure when withdrawals outpace access to cash.
  5. 5A bank serving foundersHe recalls services designed for startups, including payroll and bridge loans.
  6. 6An uncertain futureHe says the question is whether runs and loss of confidence spread, leaving several outcomes possible.

Takeaways

  1. Silicon Valley Bank’s customer base meant the crisis quickly affected venture investors and startups.
  2. U.S. authorities protected all deposits but did not provide the same protection to shareholders and certain unsecured creditors.
  3. Banks can face liquidity pressure when asset and withdrawal timelines do not match.
  4. The guest’s views about interest rates, resolution, and confidence were early assessments, not certain outcomes.
  5. Cross-border startups’ cash arrangements are linked to where they need to make payments.
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01

The crisis and an anxious weekend

Wang recalls the effects of Silicon Valley Bank’s failure on startups and investors. U.S. authorities subsequently acted to protect deposits.

In opening excerpts, Allen Wang Huainan evaluates the U.S. authorities’ decision to protect depositors and asks whether the banking crisis could develop into a longer-term crisis of confidence. These were his judgments at the time, not established outcomes.

Zhang Xiaojun introduces an interview recorded soon after Silicon Valley Bank’s failure in 2023. Her guest, Wang Huainan, spent the preceding weekend helping entrepreneurs understand their deposits; they discuss causes, responses, and potential risks.

Zhang welcomes Wang back and asks how he spent the busy weekend.

Wang feels he is living through an unusually dense sequence of major events. He mentions ChatGPT’s rapid development and reports at the time about room-temperature superconductivity; he also notes the controversy surrounding the latter, which should not be treated as established.

He sees the Silicon Valley Bank crisis as a third event suddenly affecting Chinese entrepreneurs: many Chinese investors and companies backed by U.S.-dollar funds had deposits there and spent the weekend unsure whether they could retrieve them.

He mentions the ordinary U.S. deposit-insurance limit of $250,000 and worries that many institutional balances exceeded it, leaving customers uncertain before authorities announced protection for depositors.

Recalling the weekend, Wang says friends tallied company deposits, attempted withdrawals, and considered where to put funds afterward. Many actions could not be completed immediately once the bank closed.

He regards Silicon Valley Bank as especially symbolic in the technology and venture ecosystem, with institutional and startup customers. He also thinks its crisis communications and management were flawed.

He worries that a run could spread to other banks. In the interview he calls the receiver the Federal Reserve; according to the FDIC, California regulators closed the bank and appointed the FDIC receiver. Authorities protected all deposits, but shareholders and certain unsecured creditors did not receive the same protection.

02

Deposit protection and potential risks

He distinguishes depositors from shareholders and raises questions about resolution, bond markets, and confidence.

Zhang asks whether friends can withdraw their money. Wang says the information available to him then was that all deposits would be accessible, and he supports distinguishing depositors from shareholders who take investment risk.

He believes the decision protected funds belonging to small businesses and innovators while allowing shareholders to bear losses. He sees the distinction as a boundary between market risk and protection for customer deposits.

Asked whether the crisis has passed, Wang says it has not. He identifies three areas to watch: the bank’s resolution, bond and interest-rate shocks, and any further spread of lost confidence.

First, although depositors were protected, the bank’s eventual resolution, purchaser, and investor losses were still uncertain. He says it had served innovative businesses for many years. The bridge bank discussed in the interview was operated by the FDIC.

Second, he worries about the effect of higher interest rates on bank bond holdings and broader markets, and how related losses will be borne. He mentions other banks’ stock-price swings, but says the losses and consequences require further investigation.

Third, he worries that bank runs and falling stock prices could damage public and international confidence, and asks whether the standing of the U.S. economy might be affected over the long term. This was a question he raised early in the episode.

He believes protecting depositors avoided a worse immediate outcome, but remains concerned that confidence could gradually weaken. He frames the uncertain alternatives as “the end of the beginning” or “the beginning of the end.”

Zhang observes that technological advances and crises occur alongside one another. Wang believes ChatGPT could have far-reaching effects and change some occupations; this is his prediction about the technology.

03

Causes and liquidity

They discuss asset allocation, interest rates, withdrawals, and disclosure. Wang emphasizes the interaction of several factors.

Returning to Silicon Valley Bank, Wang distinguishes customer deposits from shares in the bank: policy protected depositors but did not promise to protect shareholders. He is uncertain about the scale of shareholders’ long-term losses.

On causes and whether a run could have been avoided, he says interest rates, asset allocation, and withdrawal speed interacted. He suggests more liquid holdings might have made withdrawals easier to meet.

He uses the process of accepting deposits and investing them to explain liquidity mismatch: panic can grow when customers withdraw faster than a bank can obtain cash.

Zhang asks whether withholding information might have prevented panic. Wang says a public company must disclose information, though markets may not have fully noticed the timing gap between assets and withdrawals.

He believes government intervention eased liquidity pressure and supports protecting depositors. His assessment of who would bear the losses was a personal analysis early in the event.

Zhang asks how rate increases contributed. Wang explains that rising rates change the market value of fixed-income assets and banks’ funding costs, while arguing that no single factor explains everything.

He attributes the crisis to several interacting factors, including changes in financing conditions, depositor confidence, and interest-rate policy. These were his views at the time.

On the bank’s customer base, he thinks its symbolic association with Silicon Valley magnified the event; it is not straightforward to say whether institutional or retail deposits would have been better.

04

Silicon Valley Bank’s services and where funds might go

He recalls services designed for startups and discusses cash-management needs of cross-border companies.

He explains that Silicon Valley Bank had long designed services for startups and venture investors, including payroll and bridge loans before committed financing arrived.

He also remembers the bank’s service and image as different from those of traditional large banks, and believes services tailored to innovators are needed.

He considers the bank’s U.S. Treasury and mortgage-backed securities valuable and supports preserving its ability to serve innovators. This was his asset-quality assessment, not a claim that the holdings lacked interest-rate, liquidity, or credit risk.

He adds that the bank could invest directly or participate in the venture ecosystem as well as lend. He hopes China will pay attention to both bank supervision and services for innovative businesses.

Zhang asks where withdrawn deposits might go. Wang says dollar-funded companies must consider domestic and overseas spending and cross-border transfers, and may place funds for different uses in different banks. This was their discussion at the time.

He worries about smaller banks’ share-price swings and depositor confidence, saying the next question is whether stress will spread.

05

Comparison with 2008 and what to watch

He compares the events, recalls investor reactions, and discusses subsequent confidence risks.

Comparing the event with 2008, he regards the U.S. government’s response as faster and as distinguishing depositors from shareholders. He thinks asset quality and the time needed to recover funds are factors to compare.

He recalls worrying over the weekend but not expecting all the money to disappear. The uncertainties were how much would be recovered, how long it would take, and who would ultimately bear losses.

He observes that the failure suddenly made many Chinese founders and investors examine where their funds were held, illustrating links between cross-border financing and banking.

Asked why investors rarely commented publicly, he suggests they were busy managing their own risks and awaiting outcomes, so immediate public comment may not have been necessary or possible.

For the following week, Wang says the key is whether runs and loss of confidence continue spreading. He does not know the outcome and leaves open both near-term stabilization and longer-term decline.

The conversation returns to the overlap of technological breakthroughs and crises. Wang thinks humanity is experiencing rapid change: technology can create opportunities but may not be kind to everyone.

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