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In this January 2023 discussion with Harry Stebbings, Homebrew co-founders Hunter Walk and Satya Patel reflect on a decade of partnership and their decision to use personal capital for new investments. They discuss consensus, fund size, check size, follow-ons, valuation and the trade-offs facing founders and investors during a downturn. Their market assessments, return hurdles and planned investment cadence are their views and plans at the time, not guarantees. Both have financial interests in Homebrew’s existing funds, personal investments and Screendoor.
- 1Consensus as a partnership choiceBoth partners must support each investment, and Homebrew does not assign individual deal credit.
- 2Why they chose to stay smallIn 2023, they viewed a $100 million seed fund as an awkward middle for their preferred strategy; that is their assessment, not a universal rule.
- 3A personal-capital budgetThey planned about 10 to 12 investments a year, generally $100,000 to $500,000 each, with no fixed ownership target.
- 4Marks and returned cashWalk distinguishes valuation reporting, downside scenarios and realized distributions.
- 5A hard conversation about cashWalk favors confronting a company’s lack of prospects, while Patel emphasizes allowing capable founders to pivot when a credible opportunity remains.
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- Align partners on shared goals, economics, responsibilities and how they will maintain the relationship.
- A fund’s size affects ownership targets, staffing, reserves and investment strategy.
- Investing personal capital can offer flexibility but depends on the partners’ financial circumstances.
- Price and financing terms matter even when an investor is not targeting a fixed ownership percentage.
- Separate reported valuations from sensitivity analysis and cash returned to investors.
- Capital alone cannot solve weak product-market fit or poor unit economics.
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Building a two-person partnership
Walk and Patel explain alignment, consensus, equal economics and the work of maintaining trust.
Satya Patel says he and Hunter Walk began discussing a venture together in 2012 after knowing each other for a decade. Before committing, they spent time aligning on success, how they wanted to spend their time and one another's strengths and weaknesses.
Walk says neither had originally planned to enter venture at that moment. He wanted to know whether Patel was genuinely ready to stop operating, while he considered whether to spend a year exploring other paths before committing to a partnership.
Patel advises prospective partners to understand what gives each person energy, what drains it and which responsibilities each will take. They also need a shared view of what kinds of companies they want to support; divergent interests can turn into conflict over credit and time.
Homebrew makes decisions by consensus, does not attribute individual deals and both partners work with every company in some capacity. Walk says that structure helps founders know they have the firm's support rather than one enthusiastic partner and another skeptic.
Walk acknowledges consensus might be unwise for a larger partnership. In their two-person model, he says the more important sources of missed opportunities have been deals they did not see or did not bring to the other partner, and opportunities they failed to win.
The firm selected institutional limited partners comfortable with an equal partnership. Walk says investors who insisted on a single key leader did not invest, while the people who did were willing to back the combined team.
Patel describes the partnership as unusually smooth, with occasional disagreements about how firmly to deal with a founder or co-investor. Walk says their stability reflects work on the relationship, including periodic external feedback from founders and co-investors rather than an absence of friction.
The original fund documents required a high LP voting threshold to continue if either partner left. Walk says they accepted that constraint deliberately: Homebrew was conceived as the two of them, and separating should require a serious decision rather than a casual change.
They began with no ambition to build a large firm or succession plan. Patel says unspoken differences about growth can damage partnerships; the pair also hold quarterly off-sites to review the business, their happiness and changing circumstances.
They describe equal economics and no deal attribution as consequences of their commitment to mutual success. Walk adds that both had accumulated savings and lived below their means before starting, making it easier to favor a long-term model over maximizing near-term income.
Walk argues investors should discuss founders' personal finances openly. A reasonable salary or modest secondary sale can reduce distracting financial stress, though he distinguishes that from founders extracting excessive liquidity ahead of their teams and investors.
Patel says there is no universal timing for founder liquidity: a small amount could make sense at different financing stages depending on the person and the business. Both sides should be realistic about what is appropriate.
From institutional funds to personal capital
They explain why they chose a smaller, more flexible investing model and how they initially budgeted it.
The decision to invest their own capital was not primarily about avoiding management fees, Walk says. Patel explains that they had long considered eventually operating like a family office, and decided to make that transition earlier as their circumstances and assessment of the seed market changed.
In their view at the time, a $100 million seed fund could be caught between models: too small to consistently buy the ownership required by a large fund strategy, but too large for maximum flexibility on check size. This is their assessment of the 2023 market, not a universal threshold.
Growing to a $300 million or $400 million fund might have required more staff, infrastructure and constraints around ownership and stage. The partners say that conflicted with the two-person partnership and founder-facing work they wanted to preserve.
Once they chose to remain smaller, investing their own money offered freedom to experiment without doing so with other people's capital. They retained obligations to investors in earlier funds, even as they changed how they made new investments.
Walk describes budgeting for about 10 to 12 investments a year, generally $100,000 to $500,000 each, without a fixed ownership target or traditional reserves. He says 10 of 11 investments in 2022 fell in that check range; this is their reported historical activity.
They set aside two years of capital from savings, hoping that carry from earlier funds would later finance more investments and that proceeds from the new investments might eventually recycle. Walk acknowledges that the ability to make that choice is a privilege, and the future recycling was only a hope.
Deal flow, pricing and fund strategy
The partners discuss smaller checks, co-investors, price sensitivity and how fund size shapes decisions.
Stebbings asks whether smaller checks leave Homebrew squeezed out when a lead investor allocates the rest to angels. Walk says they can accept smaller allocations and recalls being offered more than they took in most 2022 investments.
Walk says the change increased introductions from multistage funds that could now include Homebrew without giving up a large ownership stake. Introductions from some similar-sized seed investors fell because those investors were primarily looking for a lead to complete a round; he presents this as an observation, not a general rule.
Patel says the new model does not require every investment to return a fixed fund, allowing the partners to fit into different cap tables. They still want to buy meaningful stakes when founders and co-investors welcome them, and Walk emphasizes that their desired outcomes remain venture-scale rather than low-risk modest multiples.
Without a fixed portfolio construction target, they can narrow the top of the funnel to markets and founders they genuinely want to work with. They describe their LPs as surprised but understanding: the typical manager conversation had been about getting bigger, not smaller.
Walk says they are less mechanically sensitive to ownership percentages but still care about price and financing terms. A valuation can affect a company's next round and shareholder upside, and the quality of the lead investor matters more when Homebrew is not itself leading.
The partners say they never generally felt pressure from their institutional LPs to deploy quickly. Walk distinguishes a subtler pressure in the former lead-seed model: not taking a pro rata allocation in a subsequent round could send a negative signal even when the firm questioned the price or timing.
Walk says a larger fund might have been financially successful for them but required more time managing a firm and less time with founders. He argues fund size shapes strategy through ownership targets, reserve decisions and the need to return the fund.
He also says LPs can contribute to fund growth by praising discipline while asking for much larger allocations to the next fund. His point is that fund managers and investors both influence the pressure to increase size.
Patel says their earlier funds were generally deployed over three to three and a half years, reflecting a preference for diversification across time. Both discuss the possible value of spreading exposure across different market conditions, without claiming that diversification guarantees returns.
Follow-ons, valuations and liquidity
They describe experiments in later financing, portfolio marks, secondary sales and potential GP–LP conflicts.
Their approach to follow-on reserves in the personal-capital model was still being debated. The absence of a fixed fund and a mandatory lead role could provide flexibility, but they were considering when additional investment or pro rata participation would be worthwhile.
The pair also discuss potentially combining their own early checks with outside capital in selected later rounds. Patel frames this as an experiment: can a small initial investor provide enough advice and earn enough trust to participate more substantially later?
Walk says they maintained relationships with prior LPs and helped create Screendoor, a fund of funds supporting underrepresented emerging managers. They describe using other investment vehicles in select situations while stressing that later-stage vehicles are not risk-free.
Patel argues venture is a relationship-driven business and that outsized returns require being both non-consensus and right. Following the same popular deals as everyone else can look attractive in a rising market but does not itself ensure distinctive returns.
Walk distinguishes reported marks, sensitivity analysis and actual cash returned. He says Homebrew generally used financing events to mark holdings, while also considering scenarios in which some portfolio valuations might need to be lower; these are descriptions of their own approach at the time.
For secondary sales and follow-ons, Patel asks whether the risk-adjusted expected return from the current price justifies buying or selling. He gives a five- to ten-times prospective return as one example of a follow-on hurdle, not a promise of realized performance.
The decision also depends on whether LPs have received capital back. Patel argues that returning some cash can create freedom, while investors should avoid holding solely because it feels good to be associated with a successful company.
Walk adds a regret-minimization question: if a holding doubles after selling a small portion, would the investor regret the sale or be pleased about the value of the remainder? He says sales should also avoid harming the company.
Stebbings asks whether managers seeking distributions to raise a new fund may sell earlier than is optimal for existing LPs. Patel agrees a conflict can exist, but says informed existing LPs may have more context than new investors who rely on distributions as evidence of performance.
The market downturn and startup trade-offs
They offer their 2023 outlook on financing, employee equity and companies with substantial cash but uncertain product-market fit.
Looking at the 2023 downturn, Walk predicts more pain for companies that cannot demonstrate a credible path to the next financing, while seeing opportunity for new founders. His outlook includes layoffs, low-value acquisitions and failures; these are forecasts, not established outcomes for particular businesses.
Patel expects capital to concentrate on a small number of strong companies and says many businesses funded on momentum will need to demonstrate fundamentals. Walk advises employees to ask whether the company's capital structure lets them participate if it succeeds, not merely whether it might survive.
Patel argues that people should join startups for the work, learning and colleagues as well as the possibility of fair compensation; he regards rapid wealth as an unreliable expectation. Walk adds that exceptional outcomes should not be mistaken for the ordinary case.
Stebbings describes a struggling company with substantial cash and investors reluctant to return it. Walk favors an honest conversation about opportunity cost when there is no credible path forward; Patel adds that if capable founders still have a real chance through a pivot, venture investors may rationally let them try.
Walk says too much capital before product-market fit can cause teams to use money to address problems it cannot solve, including poor economics or weak product fit. He hopes a slower financing environment will give some early companies more room to focus on product and team building.
Money, values and quick-fire reflections
The conversation closes with financial security, access to capital, hiring and their definitions of success.
Asked whether money makes them happy, Walk says financial security removed stress and let him focus on other sources of satisfaction. Patel says wealth gave him the freedom to choose how to spend time and contribute to opportunities for others; both acknowledge that their financial position shapes their options.
The partners reflect that similar circumstances and values helped their relationship. Walk believes that, earlier in his career, a stronger need for financial security and recognition might have made him more interested in assets under management and fees.
In quick-fire answers, Patel expresses hope for broader access to capital and for a younger generation's willingness to question assumptions. Walk worries that people with the means to address social and environmental problems may instead use their resources to shield themselves from those problems.
Patel argues that, in early hiring, attitude can matter more than aptitude and that distribution can lead product quality by generating feedback. Walk shares Patel's advice that a founder relationship that feels wrong before an investment is unlikely to improve simply because a check is written.
Both define success partly as freedom to spend time with the people they choose and to improve opportunities for others. Walk says Homebrew's name honors the Homebrew Computer Club and the earlier community on whose work later technology builders stand.
Stebbings thanks both guests; Walk says the joint conversation felt appropriate after a decade of building Homebrew together.
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