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At NAB New York, Shira Lazar speaks with creator and former front-end developer Nimay Ndolo about adapting to AI while questioning its social and environmental costs. Ndolo describes limited uses for the technology, her hopes for more inclusive funding and a future in which creative work remains human-led.
- 1Learning without surrendering skepticismNdolo compares AI to earlier technological shifts and wants to keep learning while questioning its impacts.
- 2Trust and regulationThe conversation turns to privacy, public confidence and the role of policy.
- 3Sustainable capitalismNdolo considers worker agency, environmental work and possible roles for decentralized organizations.
- 4City Aesthetica and AIShe describes her nonprofit and a possible future use for AI in administrative tasks.
- 5Representation mattersNdolo calls for funders to support Black women and people with different perspectives.
- 6Creative boundariesShe keeps scriptwriting human-led and uses AI sparingly as a sounding board.
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- Ndolo wants to learn AI tools so she does not feel left behind, while remaining concerned about water use and energy.
- She sees regulation and more inclusive funding as ways to address distrust and unequal access.
- Her nonprofit studies the relationship between human behavior and the built environment; she is exploring possible automation of administrative work.
- She keeps AI out of scriptwriting, uses it occasionally as a sounding board and works with human editors.
- Her comments about AI and mental health are personal opinions, and she acknowledges potential harms.
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From development to the AI shift
Ndolo describes her background in front-end development and her desire to keep up with new tools. She weighs adaptation against environmental concern.
From the NAB New York show floor, Shira Lazar welcomes Nimay Ndolo, a creator, activist and former front-end developer. Lazar introduces her work across politics, identity, mental health and environmental issues, and asks how she is approaching an AI-driven world.
Ndolo says technology has long been central to her work: before creating content, she worked as a contract front-end developer. She sees AI as a new frontier of the internet that intersects with the politics, style and other subjects she discusses.
Her immediate concern is learning enough to avoid feeling left behind by a technological shift. Born in 1994, she sees the internet, the iPhone and AI as three major changes in her lifetime. She wants a balanced view: she is curious about the tools, but worried about impacts including water use and believes regulation is needed.
Lazar asks how access can extend across ages and communities. Ndolo recalls growing up with a computer room and then moving to smartphones. She says some people in her generation are comfortable with the internet but resist newer technologies, and recognizes that resistance in herself.
Ndolo says she sometimes uses ChatGPT to vent but has resisted asking it questions she could work through herself. Lazar describes using AI as a sounding board. A recent voice demonstration of Microsoft Copilot made Ndolo realize that her own reluctance to try voice interaction may limit her ability to learn.
Trust, regulation and political change
Lazar and Ndolo discuss distrust of technology companies and the role of regulation. Ndolo offers her views on political leadership and economic systems.
Lazar asks whether mistrust reflects privacy and data concerns created during the social media era. Ndolo thinks lack of regulation contributes to that mistrust. She points to a proposed ten-year restriction on AI legislation as an example of why she doubts policymakers are keeping pace, and argues that guardrails could give people more confidence.
Asked about policy, Ndolo expresses pessimism about the administration at the time and hopes for younger political leadership. She argues that perspectives closer to the working population could bring different ideas. She also offers her view that sustainable capitalism and democratic socialism could complement one another.
Work, sustainability and City Aesthetica
Ndolo considers worker agency and decentralized organizations. She explains her nonprofit and potential administrative uses of AI.
Lazar asks what sustainable capitalism might look like in an AI era. Ndolo brings up decentralized autonomous organizations, or DAOs, and says her environmental nonprofit is considering aspects of that infrastructure. She contrasts computer-based work threatened by automation with environmental and sanitation work that she believes is undervalued.
Ndolo argues that companies can attract people by paying well and giving them agency over their work. Lazar adds that disruptive companies also fill gaps and solve problems. Ndolo imagines a system combining worker agency, fair compensation and potentially blockchain-based structures, while acknowledging that the details are more complicated than she can explain briefly.
She says she has spent time learning how to explain the nonprofit’s mission simply, but has not yet worked out how to integrate NFTs or a DAO. City Aesthetica studies links between human behavior, architecture and infrastructure, including how people respond to their built surroundings.
Ndolo can imagine using AI for administrative paperwork at the nonprofit. She draws a distinction between repetitive tasks and writing, including grant writing, which she considers creative and wants to keep human-led. Whether she adopts such automation, she says, depends on how her assessment of AI develops.
Discussing reactions from her audience, Ndolo repeats that she does not want to become technologically illiterate. She compares resisting AI outright to resisting the internet in 1995 and urges people to learn and adapt. At the same time, she says water use, data centers and energy demand require attention.
Environmental impact, inclusion and mental health
Ndolo discusses water use and inclusive funding. She offers personal opinions about AI and mental health while acknowledging risks.
Lazar asks how people of color, Black people and LGBTQ people can avoid being left behind. Ndolo emphasizes systemic change and calls on venture capitalists and philanthropists to fund Black women and people with varied perspectives. She argues that people who know their communities can help carry change to them.
On mental health, Ndolo explicitly identifies herself as a layperson rather than a clinician. She offers her personal view that professionals should explore how to work with AI, while acknowledging dangers including AI-associated psychosis and the need for guardrails. These are her opinions in the interview, not clinical guidance.
Creative practice and final reflections
Ndolo explains why she writes her own scripts and works with human editors. She closes with reflections on identity, generated content and her nonprofit’s work.
Asked about her own creative workflow, Ndolo says she does not want AI writing scripts for her content or films. She studied theater and film and wants to preserve her artistic voice. She does occasionally ask an AI tool whether a joke or comparison makes sense, then continues working on it herself.
Ndolo says she has hired two human editors, partly to avoid burnout. Looking ahead five years, she hopes her digital self will reflect who she is, but she is unsure how technology will develop. She is reluctant to use an avatar, citing ownership questions and environmental concerns, and wants to keep her own AI use low.
Asked about her confidence, Ndolo mentions shadow work and years of being bullied, including online ridicule. She says those experiences have made her less sensitive to criticism and helped her continue when her way of working feels effective and true to herself.
Ndolo worries about low-quality AI-generated content and the potential for synthetic media to contribute to social discord. Her current advice to creators is not to integrate it into their content, though she acknowledges that her view may change as technology develops. Environmental impact remains her central concern.
In closing, Ndolo thanks her audience and describes City Aesthetica’s micro green space proof of concept in New York City. She says regulation may lead the organization to explore other locations, mentioning the Midwest and Africa. Lazar thanks her for her work and emphasis on mental health.
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