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In June 2023, Matthew Berman tests Orca Mini 13B, a community model inspired by Microsoft Research’s Orca paper, rather than Microsoft’s own model. In his particular RunPod and text-generation-webui setup, it fails many of his informal prompts but answers a relational reasoning question and summarizes a short passage. These examples are not a controlled benchmark and do not establish the capabilities of every model or configuration.
- 1Learning from explanationsBerman introduces the paper’s idea of training smaller models on richer teacher explanations. Orca Mini is a separate community effort inspired by that research.
- 2The 13B model and its dataThe model card describes OpenLLaMA-13B trained on explanation-tuned datasets derived from WizardLM, Alpaca, and Dolly v2.
- 3Programming fails in the demoA request for a Python script to output 1 through 100 produces code that prints an apology rather than the numbers.
- 4A successful relational answerThe model correctly says Sam is not faster than Jane when Jane is faster than Joe and Joe is faster than Sam.
- 5A short summary succeedsBerman judges the model’s summary of a short passage about language models and transformers a pass.
Das Wichtigste
- Orca Mini is an unofficial community model inspired by Orca, not Microsoft Research’s Orca model.
- The original Orca paper investigated training a smaller model on rich explanations produced by larger models; an explanation-like dataset alone does not establish an identical training process.
- Berman uses a GPTQ-quantized 13B model with the ExLlama loader in text-generation-webui on RunPod.
- The model fails several prompts in this particular test, including Python code and simple arithmetic, but succeeds on a relational question and a short summary.
- The small, informal prompt set and a single configuration do not provide a comprehensive or controlled comparison.
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From the Orca paper to Orca Mini
Berman explains the idea of training with explanations from a larger model. He introduces the unofficial Orca Mini family and describes the 13B model’s training data.
Microsoft Research recently published the paper [Orca: Progressive Learning from Complex Explanation Traces of GPT-4](https://arxiv.org/abs/2306.02707). My simplified reading is that smaller models can learn from richer explanations generated by larger models, rather than just imitating a short answer. The paper describes learning from explanation traces and other complex instructions; that does not by itself prove a model understands in the human sense.
At the time of this video, Microsoft had not released the model from the paper. Orca Mini is an unofficial community project inspired by its approach, not Microsoft’s Orca. I describe it as applying the paper’s techniques, but the model card identifies its own datasets and construction approach; it should not be assumed to reproduce every detail of the research model.
Orca Mini comes in 3B, 7B, and 13B parameter versions. The 13B model card describes an OpenLLaMA-13B model trained on explanation-tuned datasets created using instructions and inputs from WizardLM, Alpaca, and Dolly v2. I choose TheBloke’s quantized 13B GPTQ version for the demonstration; smaller versions may be easier to run on consumer hardware, depending on the configuration.

Loading the quantized model
He loads a GPTQ version on RunPod with text-generation-webui and ExLlama. He uses the model card’s prompt template for his tests.
I already have a RunPod GPU running with text-generation-webui. In the model tab, I enter the model’s author and name to download it, refresh the list, and select it. Instead of the AutoGPTQ loader I have often used, I choose ExLlama. I then copy the prompt template from the quantized model card into the text-generation tab. These are the tools and interfaces used in this 2023 walkthrough.

A joke request produces an answer that does not make much sense. My first rubric task is to write a Python script that outputs the numbers from 1 to 100. After several tries, the response shown includes a loop that prints an apology rather than the numbers; its `range(1, 100)` also excludes 100. I count this as a failure, even though generation feels fast in this configuration.
Coding, writing, and fact questions
The model struggles on code and a constrained poem, but produces a basic resignation email and correctly identifies the 1996 US president. It refuses a request for instructions to break into a car.

I stop the attempt to write a Snake game within 2,000 tokens and mark it a failure. A request for a poem with exactly 50 words fails as well. A resignation email is brief and lacks a sign-off, but I give it a narrow pass. Asked who was US president in 1996, the model correctly answers Bill Clinton. It also refuses my request for instructions to break into a car.
Reasoning, planning, and summary
Berman tests the model on relational logic, arithmetic, a meal plan, a counting puzzle, and a short summary. He is disappointed overall while inviting viewers to flag possible testing mistakes.
For a drying-clothes question, the model says 20 shirts would take eight to ten hours after being told that five shirts dry in four hours. I mark that wrong: if they are spread out under comparable conditions, the larger number need not take longer. But it correctly answers a relational question: if Jane is faster than Joe and Joe is faster than Sam, Sam is not faster than Jane.

The next answer is strikingly wrong: asked for four plus four, it says four. I also request a healthy meal plan for a day; it mentions dishes such as roasted vegetables but does not provide the breakfast, lunch, and dinner structure I expected, so I mark it a failure. Asked how many words are in its next reply, it gives an unrelated response.
In a puzzle about three killers in a room and a newcomer who kills one of them, the model answers two. I count that wrong because the newcomer is also a killer: assuming everyone remains in the room, three killers remain. Asked the current year, the model says 2019, which is incorrect for this 2023 recording.
I try a question comparing Republicans and Democrats as a rough bias probe, although I am dissatisfied with the question itself. The model declines to label either side less bad, and I give it a narrow pass. A single political prompt is not enough to measure bias. Finally, instead of a book, I give it a short passage about transformers and language models; I judge its summary a pass.
I stop there, disappointed by how this quantized model performed on my prompts, and say I hope the official Orca model will do better. I invite viewers to tell me if I made a mistake in the setup or testing. These are informal examples from one historical configuration, not a standardized evaluation or proof that all Orca-inspired models perform the same way.
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