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Andy Raskin argues that the standard problem-solution pitch makes founders sound like arrogant doctors, and that the best pitches instead describe a shift from an old game to a new one and invite the buyer to join a movement. He walks through a five-part structure with examples from Salesforce, Zuora, Gong, Drift and 360Learning, and explains when the approach fits, how to test it, and why a rough first draft is worth more than a stack of good ideas.
- 1Most pitches follow what Raskin calls the arrogant doctor structure: a problem, a treatment, and why mine beats the other treatments. It sets you up for bragging rather than for a shared story.
- 2A strategic narrative starts with a named shift from an old game to a new game, such as software to cloud, transactions to subscriptions, or opinions to reality, which defines a movement instead of solving a single problem.
- 3To make the story emotional, show that the future is not "sort of okay" but split between a very bad outcome and a very good one, ideally by naming winners who already play the new game.
- 4Once the narrative exists, it becomes the bar for product decisions: if a feature request does not help you win the new game, it is deprioritized. Gong, for example, declined features built around recording opinions.
- 5Raskin prefers movement creation to category creation: the story matters more than the three-word name, and Gong's CEO joked it could have been called "strawberry intelligence".
- 6The second working session is always a low point, but a bad first draft is a million times more valuable than a pile of great ideas, because it gives the team something to react to.
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A brutal pitch rejection led Raskin from coding to screenwriting books and story
Raskin started as a computer science major and, during the dot-com years, wrote an investor pitch for an app he and a friend had built. A VC rated it a 1 out of 10 and added "Worst" in parentheses, with a handwritten note that read "Not a compelling story." Soon after, he walked past a Barnes & Noble window sign for people who want to tell a compelling story and found screenwriting books.
Reading them, he realized that a movie is a pitch for a worldview and that its structure differed sharply from his business plan. He restructured the pitch, sent it out again and received more interest, and within a few months had a term sheet. The product had not changed, only how they talked about it, and that got him curious about stories.
For the next 10 to 15 years he assumed no CEO would budget a line item for story, so he did not turn it into consulting. What changed his mind was writing. A post on Medium about the Zuora sales deck, around the 30th or 40th piece he had written, drew roughly 2 million views and inquiries from teams around the world. Raskin says it proved CEOs would pay for this work.
Lenny contrasts two routes to writing success, one breakout piece or years of steady output, and Raskin says his own path was gradual with peaks. An earlier piece dissecting Elon Musk's Powerwall pitch drew a few hundred thousand views. There is a long stretch when it feels like you are talking to nobody, he says, and the magic happens over time.
Great pitches define a shift from an old game to a new one
Raskin defines a strategic narrative as the one story a CEO uses to drive marketing, sales and product, and also the north star for roadmap, fundraising and recruiting. He contrasts it with the pitch structure taught in business school, which he calls the arrogant doctor. In that structure you have a pain, I have a treatment, and here is why mine is better than the other treatments, which pulls you toward bragging.
The structure he found in movies starts with a shift in the world, and he calls it the shift from the old game to a new game. His archetype is Marc Benioff at Salesforce, who said software as something you own and maintain was over and a new world called the cloud had new rules. Raskin says this defines a movement, which is very different from saying you will solve a problem.
CRM was already a category with Siebel as the giant, he notes, so the old-style pitch would have been about easier installs or more functionality. Instead Salesforce implied that competitors belonged to the old game and asked buyers whether they were in or out. Zuora's Tien Tzuo, who was employee number 11 at Salesforce, used the same pattern, moving from transactions to a subscription economy.
Gong is the third example: from sales run on opinions to a world run on reality. Its CEO Amit Bendov told Raskin around Series B that the narrative could be a multiplier on growth. Raskin says it also helped the company be seen as a tool for sales leadership, not just sales operations, rather than a feature list about recording calls.
Five moves turn the shift into a story buyers want to join
Raskin warns against copying the Zuora deck with your own logo. The first move is naming the shift concisely, with pairs such as software to cloud or opinions to reality. Concision means losing completeness, he admits, and people may quibble with "subscription economy," but he says nobody dismisses it for that reason. The point is a compact name, not an exhaustive list of bullet points.
The second move is naming the stakes, ideally by showing that winners already play the new game. He uses Star Wars: Luke refuses the call like a reluctant buyer with no budget this quarter, until his aunt and uncle are killed and the stakes become life and death. Raskin says he means this figuratively: the prospect should see the future as divided between a very negative outcome and a potentially very positive one.
Third is naming the object of the new game, which he once called the promised land. It acts as the movement's rallying cry, such as Zuora's "turn customers into subscribers" or Airbnb's "belong anywhere" and later "live there." He suggests phrasing it as a question, like "what would it take to turn every customer into a subscriber?", so the buyer comes along as a co-adventurer.
Fourth are the obstacles that make winning hard, such as measuring lifetime value in an always-on world. These sound like the problems you solve, but now they are obstacles on the way to a goal already framed as life and death. Fifth, the "magic gifts" are how you help overcome them, which is the place for product and success stories.
The hero's journey is background; the buyer is the one being cast as hero
Raskin acknowledges the hero's journey from Joseph Campbell lies behind much of this, including the refusal of the call, but he rarely mentions it. He finds it too theoretical, and people tend to glaze over. Nor is he focused on storytelling as a general skill; his interest is in the one story and its structure.
In this one story there is no protagonist being rescued from a problem. Spelling out the shift changes the listener's world and turns the person you are talking to into the main character, he says. Lenny sums it up as putting the buyer into the hero's journey, and Raskin agrees.
To make the five steps concrete, Raskin walks through 360Learning, a corporate training software company that has raised over $200 million. It had pitched itself as collaborative learning, which sounded like a category label and prompted the question of how it differed from other learning platforms. The new story moved from top-down training to upskilling from within, with winners like Google turning internal experts into educators.
Stakes included expensive training and, for a car company, the risk of dying if you cannot get electric-vehicle skills to your people. A McDonald's recruiting poster in France became another winner example. CEO Nick Hernandez now reports he no longer gets the question of how 360Learning differs from other platforms, and the conversation moves to getting started.
A narrative becomes the filter for marketing and product decisions
Impact is hard to measure, Raskin says, since nobody knows whether Gong grew 3x instead of 1x because of the narrative. What CEOs tell him is that they stop pitching features out of context and pitch a movement instead, with the product as a prop that makes the story come true. Marketing then flows from the story.
With Zuora, he says, about 80% of early content was trend pieces about how music or luxury goods companies embrace subscriptions, not product announcements, which gives unlimited material and feels less salesy. Another benefit CEOs mention first, including one he interviewed that morning, is that it becomes the strategic north star for product when feature requests flood in through sales and customer success.
For 360Learning, the test is whether a feature helps upskill from within. Amit Bendov told Raskin that Gong gets many requests built around recording opinions and says no. Raskin also praises Drift, which entered a crowded chatbot field not by arguing its chatbot was best but by contrasting a "world of forms" and waiting with a "world of now" and calling it conversational marketing.
Movement beats category, and B2B enterprise fits best
Asked about category creation, Raskin jokes that Lenny is trying to get him in trouble and softens his stance. He notes that Play Bigger, the bible of category design, itself describes a category as a narrative. His concern is that people fixate on two or three magic words. Others already used "revenue intelligence" before Gong made it a thing, and he says Bendov later joked the name could have been "strawberry intelligence."
He says CEOs often end up with a name like "collaborative learning" and no story around it, so he prefers to focus on the story. If someone decides your movement is a category, that is a bonus. He sees movement and category as almost orthogonal, using HubSpot, which stood for inbound while being known first as marketing automation and later as CRM.
On fit, Raskin says the approach resonates most with B2B enterprise technology. It takes time to tell, and enterprise purchases involve a group buyer that needs a unifying story. The arrogant doctor structure comes from an age of products like cans of soup or boxed software that barely changed, whereas modern B2B software changes by the minute. Consumer companies who contact him usually hear no, though feature-comparison buying such as choosing a fitness watch still exists.
Test it in sales calls and expect the second session to hurt
Raskin says CEOs contact him at three typical moments. One is when the company is maturing past the founders' brute force, often around Series B, and founders can no longer be in every meeting. Another is after scaling when acquisitions or new product units make the old story too small, as with OneTrust. The third is a pivot where the market changed.
For founders who want to try it alone, he recommends laying out the structure and testing it in some sales calls, not rolling it out to everyone. The sign it works is that prospects pick up the shift and volunteer how it is playing out for them. He trains salespeople to ask, "Am I crazy, or are you seeing this?" He rejects templates, since every team is different: these are principles, not a formula.
In his process he asks the CEO to form a team of up to four, runs a kickoff, and interviews customers. He then builds a first draft with the CEO and presents it in session two, which is always a low point, because the team's ideas have mostly been thrown out to make something clean. One CFO told him he could have stressed how bad that session would be. He says a rough draft is far more valuable than a pile of ideas, because feedback on what fails gives them the energy to return to the drawing board.
The CEO must own the story, and slide titles should be takeaways
Lenny asks whether product managers launching a product could use this too, and Raskin says yes, since chief product officers are frequently on these teams. But looking back, the engagements where the narrative became a true north star were those where the CEO led it personally and worked on the drafts. A product leader needs that support across marketing, sales and recruiting, not a story told only in product.
He quotes the Zuora executive who gave him the initial deck, who said the CEO's backing gave him air cover while he knocked down deals on the ground. In the lightning round he recommends Robert McKee's *Story*, the screenwriting bible he found at that bookstore, and Geoff Dyer's *Out of Sheer Rage*. Raskin also shares the one tip he gives for any deck: make each slide's title the takeaway, not a label like "The team", so the viewer does zero work to understand it.
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