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47:05ENLogan Kilpatrick on AI Developers, Interfaces, and the Future of ModelsMatthew Berman, Logan Kilpatrick · Forward FutureIn a July 2025 conversation, Google’s Logan Kilpatrick discusses Windsurf, agent interfaces, coding skills, Veo, and the shifting boundary between models and application scaffolding.
1:09ENA Discussion of GPT-4.5’s Scaling and TrainingA speaker offers an assessment of GPT-4.5’s cost, speed and alleged training challenges.