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53:48ENMustafa Suleyman on AI Consciousness, Containment, and Human Controlゲスト Mustafa Suleyman · ホスト Walter IsaacsonIn a conversation with Walter Isaacson, Microsoft AI’s CEO explains his disagreement over model welfare and the safeguards he believes increasingly capable systems need.
42:06ENDario and Daniela Amodei on Building Anthropic, AI Safety, and Human Meaningゲスト Dario Amodei, Daniela Amodei · ホスト Walter IsaacsonThe Anthropic co-founders discuss the roots of their partnership, the challenge of keeping AI systems honest, and the choices facing a world of more capable models.









