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1:14:08ENLovable CEO Anton Osika on AI App Building, Economics and SecurityGuest Anton Osika · Host Harry StebbingsOsika discusses Lovable’s reported growth, model costs and product strategy while Stebbings challenges its defensibility and security.
48:30ENGuy Podjarny on AI Coding Tools and the Future of Software DevelopmentGuest Guy Podjarny · Host Harry StebbingsThe Tessl CEO examines coding assistants, agentic development, security and the business choices surrounding AI.









