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1:27:02ZH → EnglishGuangmi: Self-Play RL Could Open a New Scaling Law for AGIGuest 广密 · Host 张小珺Guangmi believes the marginal gains from scaling language pretraining alone may be fading, making self-play reinforcement learning a more promising path. Whether it generalizes to coding, video, robotics, and beyond may determine the next stage of the AGI race.
49:41ZH → EnglishFu Sheng: Large Models Are a Productivity Revolution, and Robots Have a New Window of OpportunityGuest 傅盛 · Host 张小珺Fu Sheng sees the heart of large models in their capacity for logic and reasoning. Their impact, he says, is closer to the steam engine than to another round of ordinary internet evolution. He also reflects on open models, service robots, and how entrepreneurs can face difficult periods.







