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Zhang Xiaojun Podcast· Nov 28, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersTan Jie on Data Bottlenecks, Generalist Robots, and the Road to Real-World RoboticsGuest 谭捷 · Host 张小珺Google DeepMind robotics researcher Tan Jie traces his path from computer graphics to robotics and from reinforcement learning to Gemini Robotics. He argues that data scale and coverage, cross-embodiment transfer, real-time reasoning, and safety remain key to bringing robot foundation models into the real world.
2:29:41ZH → EnglishZhang Xiaojun Podcast· Apr 7, 2025Podcast · 4 speakersChen Jianyu: How Robot Foundation Models Can Become General-Purpose VLA SystemsGuest 陈建宇 · Host 张小珺From SayCan and RT-2 to Diffusion Policy, Tsinghua assistant professor and Epoch Robotics founder Chen Jianyu traces the path from borrowing language models to end-to-end VLA. The hard problems remain diverse data, cross-embodiment generalization, and high-frequency action control.