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Zhang Xiaojun Podcast· Nov 18, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersLiu Xianming: Removing Language to Bring Physical AI Back to Data and ActionGuest 刘先明 · Host 张小珺Liu Xianming, head of autonomous driving at XPeng, explains why language supervision in VLA training can become an efficiency bottleneck and how he is helping XPeng shift from an autonomous-driving team to a physical AI company. The conversation also covers scaling data, organizational change, production safety, and what comes next for autonomous driving.Autonomous DrivingAI StrategyRobotics+2