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53:07ZH → EnglishZhang Yaqin on the AGI Roadmap: Information, Physical, and Biological IntelligenceGuest 张亚勤 · Host 张小珺Zhang Yaqin divides AGI’s development into information, physical, and biological intelligence. Information intelligence may approach human levels within five years, general-purpose robots may take about ten, and biological intelligence could expand human memory and health in twenty. He also discusses how large models can give autonomous vehicles and robots more data, common sense, and ability to act.
1:27:02ZH → EnglishGuangmi: Self-Play RL Could Open a New Scaling Law for AGIGuest 广密 · Host 张小珺Guangmi believes the marginal gains from scaling language pretraining alone may be fading, making self-play reinforcement learning a more promising path. Whether it generalizes to coding, video, robotics, and beyond may determine the next stage of the AGI race.
1:33:07ZH → EnglishLi Guangmi on a Year in Global LLMs: Scaling Law, the AGI Bet, and the US–China LandscapeGuest 李广密 · Host 张小珺Drawing on his front-row view from Silicon Valley, Shixiang Capital founder Li Guangmi looks back at the competition among OpenAI, Anthropic, Google, and Chinese model companies. He argues that model capability and cost together will shape the next wave of applications, while today’s enormous investments are bets on whether intelligence can keep scaling and how AI will reshape the economy and industry over the long term.








