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Zhang Xiaojun Podcast· Nov 28, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersTan Jie: Data Is the Bottleneck for General-Purpose Robot Intelligence, and a General Form Will Take TimeGuest 谭捷 · Host 张小珺Tan Jie, a robotics research scientist at Google DeepMind, looks back on his path from computer graphics to robotics, from reinforcement learning to Gemini Robotics. He argues that robot foundation models have not yet become an independent discipline, and that data scale and coverage, cross-embodiment transfer, real-time reasoning, and safety remain key to real-world applications.
2:29:41ZH → EnglishZhang Xiaojun Podcast· Apr 7, 2025Podcast · 4 speakersChen Jianyu: How Robot Foundation Models Can Become General-Purpose VLA SystemsGuest 陈建宇 · Host 张小珺From SayCan and RT-2 to Diffusion Policy, Tsinghua assistant professor and Epoch Robotics founder Chen Jianyu traces the path from borrowing language models to end-to-end VLA. The hard problems remain diverse data, cross-embodiment generalization, and high-frequency action control.