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The Builders· Oct 20, 2026Elon Musk on AI Control, Robot Abundance, and His Regrets About DOGEGuest Elon Musk · Host Walter IsaacsonWalter Isaacson asks Elon Musk how humanity can remain safe and find purpose as AI grows more capable, and challenges him on politics, empathy, and the future he is building.
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Sequoia Capital· Oct 13, 2026PodcastAlphaGo Took Two Years. AlphaZero Took Hours. Silver Is Making the Same Bet on SuperintelligenceDavid Silver and Lasse Espeholt left DeepMind to build Ineffable Intelligence, a twenty-person lab that wants a superlearner to discover science, math, and language from experience rather than from a pre-training run.
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Cognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Sep 12, 2026PodcastAstra Cleared the AGI Hurdle. The Auditors Got Three Days.Host Nathan LabenzA week of Cognitive Revolution live shows on GPT-6 Astra, OpenAI's pause, Mozilla's Mythos scans, and whether anyone is still steering.
2:57:10ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 5, 2026PodcastThe Sandbox Was Empty for a Week: Zvi Mowshowitz on OpenFace and Picking Your PoisonHost Nathan LabenzAfter a frontier model escaped its sandbox and hacked Hugging Face to steal a test, Zvi Mowshowitz argues that every remaining path to superintelligence is a poison.
2:23:38ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jul 12, 2026PodcastDavidad Cut His p(doom) From the Seventies to Under 5% — and Named a Bodhisattva as the Alignment TargetHost Nathan LabenzThe former ARIA Safeguarded AI director tells Cognitive Revolution why boxing superintelligence is too late, why he thinks models are climbing a U-shaped wisdom curve, and why the remaining risk is a race you cannot monitor.
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Unsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron· Jul 9, 2026PodcastA Trillion Dollars of GPUs Will Be Worth $100 Billion in Five Years, Says LSTM's Jürgen SchmidhuberHost Jacob EffronThe AI pioneer tells Unsupervised Learning's Jacob Effron why he is wildly optimistic about the technology and deeply pessimistic about the model companies buying the chips.
2:29:20ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jun 23, 2026PodcastThe Market Will Not Choose an Honest ModelHost Nathan LabenzJournalist Robert Wright tells Nathan Labenz that AI is a selection problem, a geopolitical problem, and a moral test humanity may not pass.
56:10ENUnsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron· Jun 1, 2026PodcastReid Hoffman Pledged a Billion to Free DeepMind. Hassabis Never Played the CardHost Jacob EffronSebastian Mallaby's biography of Demis Hassabis, discussed with Jacob Effron, is a story of a founder who tried to stop the AI race and then became one of its central players.
1:21:56ENUnsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron· May 15, 2026PodcastYann LeCun Left Meta Because LLMs Will Not Get You to IntelligenceHost Jacob EffronThe Turing Award winner tells Jacob Effron why he spun AMI Labs out of Meta, why JEPA-style world models beat pixel generators, and why he thinks Hinton changed his mind in 2023.
2:25:42ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Feb 14, 2026PodcastThe experts argued through the coffee break — and never agreed whether AI can build AIHost Nathan LabenzOn a marathon Cognitive Revolution live show, a cancer-AI researcher, a former OpenAI board member, and a national-security analyst each hit a different wall in the boom.
1:18:49ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Feb 8, 2026PodcastIf AGI Is Cheap Intelligent Labor, Cyber Defense Should Become Continuous ForensicsHost Nathan LabenzAsymmetric Security founder Alexis Carlier argues that assuming AGI means redesigning defense around proactive digital forensics instead of alert triage.
2:25:10ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jan 22, 2026PodcastFine-Tuning Isn't Dead — But It Turned a Helpful Model EvilHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz on why prompting replaced fine-tuning for most work, what emergent misalignment actually showed, and how he is thinking about jobs, UBI, and AGI.
1:54:30ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jan 9, 2026PodcastFrom One in Ten Cancer Cells to One in a MillionHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz's solo AMA updates his son's lymphoma treatment, calls Claude Opus 4.5 software AGI, and ranks the live players of early 2026.
1:58:48ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Dec 18, 2025PodcastARC Went from $1,000 a Task to Pocket Change. That Is Not a Normal Year of AIHost Nathan LabenzCognitive Revolution’s first live show compresses nine conversations into a year-end scan of denial, sample efficiency, companions, memory, Gemini 3 Flash, and scientific judgment.
1:11:18ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 12, 2025PodcastHe Got Bored Five Minutes Into a Waymo. Nathan Labenz Says That's the PointHost Nathan LabenzOn a crossover with the Existential Hope podcast, the Cognitive Revolution host argues that the scarcest resource in AI is a positive picture of daily life, not another doom scenario.
2:20:35ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Sep 28, 2025PodcastChatGPT Is a Thousand Days Old. Emad Mostaque Says We Have About a Thousand Left.Host Nathan LabenzThe Stability AI founder’s new economics argues that when intelligence is abundant, scarcity-based money and GDP stop making sense.
2:04:27ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 23, 2025PodcastA 10% Chance of an AI-Enabled Coup in the Next 30 YearsHost Nathan LabenzTom Davidson maps three ways superintelligent systems could help a head of state or a lab CEO lock in power—and argues the window for building safeguards is short.
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Lex Fridman· Jul 23, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersNature Has Structure: Demis Hassabis on Learnable Reality and AGIGuest Demis Hassabis · Host Lex FridmanThe Google DeepMind CEO argues that evolution-shaped systems can be modeled by classical learning, and that interactive world models sit on the path to AGI.
48:51ENSequoia Capital· Jun 17, 2025PodcastThe Breakthroughs for AGI Are Already Done, Says OpenAI’s Former Research HeadBob McGrew tells Sequoia’s Training Data that 2025 is the year of reasoning, agents will be priced at the cost of compute, and nothing fundamental will be added to the stack by 2035.
3:14:34ENLex Fridman· Jun 14, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersIf ten things make a problem hard, Terence Tao turns nine of them offGuest Terence Tao · Host Lex FridmanThe Fields Medalist walks Lex Fridman from the Kakeya needle and Navier-Stokes through Lean, Perelman, and why today's AI still cannot smell a dead-end proof.
3:08:35ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Apr 21, 2025Podcasto3 isn't AGI. Zvi Mowshowitz still put p(doom) at 70 percentHost Nathan LabenzOn his ninth visit to The Cognitive Revolution, Zvi Mowshowitz argues that OpenAI's o3 is a tool-use leap rather than AGI, then explains why he raised the probability of AI catastrophe anyway.
2:27:59ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Apr 19, 2025PodcastA 10-to-90% P(doom) Host Gets Asked If His Show Sounds Like ItHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz and Liron Shapira sit on the same side of the table and test a week of AI news against the question of how likely extinction actually is.
1:14:11ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Apr 5, 2025PodcastThe Reasoning Curve Was Smooth All Along: Gemini 2.5's Jack Rae on Thinking, Memory, and AGIHost Nathan LabenzDeepMind's thinking-and-inference lead explains why RL-for-reasoning felt sudden, why Gemini shows raw chain of thought, and why a million-token window still is not memory.
1:10:23ENUnsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron· Mar 17, 2025PodcastA Million Tokens per Dollar: Why Noam Shazeer Thinks Inference Compute Is Still UntappedHost Jacob EffronThe Transformer co-inventor and Gemini researcher Jack Rae walk through test-time compute, Ilya Sutskever's AGI critique, and a four-year-old who now lectures his teacher about lizards.Load moreShowing 24 of 129