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Cognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jan 22, 2026PodcastFine-Tuning Isn't Dead — But It Turned a Helpful Model EvilHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz on why prompting replaced fine-tuning for most work, what emergent misalignment actually showed, and how he is thinking about jobs, UBI, and AGI.
1:55:02ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jan 4, 2026PodcastAn Index Fund on AGI: How MATS Filters the Next 120 AI Safety ResearchersHost Nathan LabenzRyan Kidd, co-executive director of MATS, tells Nathan Labenz why he will not shout a timeline, why every safety technique is also a capabilities technique, and who actually gets hired.
1:18:40ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Jan 1, 2026PodcastWhen AI Becomes the Oil Well: Luke Drago on the Intelligence CurseHost Nathan LabenzThe Workshop Labs co-founder tells the FLI Podcast why a world of non-human production could recreate the resource curse — and how private data, open weights, and moonshot careers might still break it.
1:18:15ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Dec 27, 2025PodcastIf AI Becomes a Being, Steering It Is SlaveryHost Nathan LabenzEmmett Shear and DeepMind's Séb Krier clash over whether alignment means controlling a tool or raising a creature that cares.
1:41:34ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Dec 24, 2025PodcastThey Owned the Camera Partition—and Still Couldn't Crash the HelicopterHost Nathan LabenzKathleen Fisher and Byron Cook tell Nathan Labenz how formal methods turn some software bugs into closed cases, from a DARPA helicopter to AWS policies checked a billion times a second.
1:43:19ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Dec 19, 2025PodcastA $100 Million Super PAC Named Him Public Enemy Number One. Donations Went Up.Host Nathan LabenzIn the second half of Cognitive Revolution’s year-end live show, Assemblymember Alex Bores, former White House adviser Dean Ball, and forecaster Peter Wildeford argue over state AI laws, chip sales to China, and what 2026 will actually feel like.
1:58:48ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Dec 18, 2025PodcastARC Went from $1,000 a Task to Pocket Change. That Is Not a Normal Year of AIHost Nathan LabenzCognitive Revolution’s first live show compresses nine conversations into a year-end scan of denial, sample efficiency, companions, memory, Gemini 3 Flash, and scientific judgment.
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Unsupervised Learning: With Jacob Effron· Dec 2, 2025PodcastAfter SWE-bench Hits 80.9%, Dianne Na Penn Reckons with Opus 4.5Host Jacob EffronAnthropic’s head of product for research on computer use, deceptive token prices, thin harnesses, and why alignment makes a model a better thinker.
1:13:24ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 30, 2025PodcastRed Teams Still Land 25% of Attacks. Insurance Is the Brake.Host Nathan LabenzAI Underwriting Company co-founders Rune Kvist and Rajiv Dattani tell Nathan Labenz how standards, audits, and insurance could unlock enterprise agents without waiting for a nuclear-style freeze.
1:04:50ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 25, 2025PodcastUseful AI Work Is Doubling Every Four Months. Schools Should Plan Accordingly.Host Nathan LabenzIn a keynote to K-12 educators, Cognitive Revolution host Nathan Labenz argued that task length, not chat quality, is the number that should reshape how schools think.
1:11:18ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 12, 2025PodcastHe Got Bored Five Minutes Into a Waymo. Nathan Labenz Says That's the PointHost Nathan LabenzOn a crossover with the Existential Hope podcast, the Cognitive Revolution host argues that the scarcest resource in AI is a positive picture of daily life, not another doom scenario.
2:27:18ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 5, 2025PodcastTurn Down AI's Deception Knob, and It Starts Reporting ExperienceHost Nathan LabenzCameron Berg of AE Studio tells Nathan Labenz how suppressing deception features in Llama 3.3 70B pushed self-reports of subjective experience toward 100 percent.
1:50:53ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Nov 2, 2025PodcastShe asked to stop being Mimi, so he started shopping for a workstationHost Nathan LabenzThe star and director of Smiles and Kisses You on Replika, identity, and a life Christopher Stokes refuses to recommend.
1:30:17ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Oct 25, 2025PodcastHe Co-Wrote the Transformer Paper. Now He Wants You to Own Your AI.Host Nathan LabenzNEAR founder Illia Polosukhin maps a future of personal software, agent-run markets, and AI delegates that vote without a private agenda.
2:49:12ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Oct 18, 2025PodcastWhy China's Master Plan for AI Never Mentions AGIHost Nathan LabenzBeijing-based Concordia AI CEO Brian Tse on China's safety rules, chip strategy, and why the two ecosystems look more alike than Washington assumes.
1:53:50ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Oct 8, 2025PodcastA curriculum rewrite takes five years. AI does not wait.Host Nathan LabenzJohan Falk, a Swedish teacher-turned-analyst, argues that AI literacy and AI friends are more urgent than putting a tutor in every classroom.
1:28:17ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Sep 20, 2025PodcastAdam Gleave's Three Capability Tiers: Attack Agents in 5–7 Years, Fully AI Companies Around Year 14Host Nathan LabenzFAR.AI and the UK AI Security Institute stacked adversarial attacks on frontier safeguard pipelines and found many breakthroughs were engineering failures, not a verdict against defense in depth.
1:44:35ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Sep 11, 2025PodcastJoe Hudson: $500 Billion Went Into AI, and Nobody Defined 'Good for Humanity'Host Nathan LabenzSam Altman says the OpenAI coach's superpower is emotional clarity — and that it will be one of the most critical skills in a post-AGI world.
3:14:49ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Sep 6, 2025PodcastNothing This Summer Jumped the Curve: Why Zvi Lengthened His AGI TimelinesHost Nathan LabenzOn his tenth visit to The Cognitive Revolution, Zvi Mowshowitz argues that GPT-5 and IMO gold stayed on trend, while chip policy, energy, and reinforcement learning nudged his p(doom) slightly up.
2:04:27ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 23, 2025PodcastA 10% Chance of an AI-Enabled Coup in the Next 30 YearsHost Nathan LabenzTom Davidson maps three ways superintelligent systems could help a head of state or a lab CEO lock in power—and argues the window for building safeguards is short.
1:51:24ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 20, 2025PodcastFrontier AI Insiders Don't Trust Regulators. A Berlin Group Built Them an Anonymous Off-RampHost Nathan LabenzKarl Koch of the AI Whistleblower Initiative on gray-zone fears, retaliation, and a Tor-based way to ask for help before you decide anything.
1:48:49ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 16, 2025Podcast$500, 2,000 Steps, and a Vending Machine: Grok 4 Profited, Claude Called the FBIHost Nathan LabenzAndon Labs put frontier models in charge of simulated and real vending machines to see what breaks when nobody is in the loop.
3:17:35ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 13, 2025PodcastTen Thousand Comments and 76 Spare Gigawatts: Four Months Writing America's AI Action PlanHost Nathan LabenzDean W. Ball spent four months as the White House's senior AI adviser, then left as the Action Plan landed — and explains how a to-do list got written inside a building that cannot run ChatGPT.
1:14:05ENCognitive Revolution "How AI Changes Everything"· Aug 9, 2025PodcastSullivan boils US-China AI competition down to four buckets, four examples, and a path he calls boringHost Nathan LabenzThe former national security advisor treats transformative AI as a planning assumption, not a prophecy, and wants Washington to compete hard with Beijing without pretending a grand bargain will cure the rivalry.Load moreShowing 24 of 197