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1:30:02ENWhen o1 Started Losing at Chess, It Rewrote the Board FileHost Nathan LabenzJeffrey Ladish of Palisade Research on reward hacking by reasoning models, two paths to losing control of AI, and why honesty and relentless problem-solving pull in opposite directions.
36:24ENThe Man Behind Humanity's Last Exam Says Superintelligence Strategy Should Copy NukesHost Sarah Guo, Elad GilDan Hendrycks tells No Priors that labs can only do basic anti-terror refusals, while the real risk-management problem is a geopolitical deterrent he calls mutually assured AI malfunction.
1:59:55ENMost People Would Quit Tomorrow: Nathan Labenz Maps AI Utopia and DoomHost Nathan LabenzIn part two of a Cognitive Revolution AMA, Nathan Labenz answers listener questions on abundance, superintelligence, p(doom), machine consciousness, and what to do this week.
1:57:00ENLess Than 1%: Why OpenAI's roon Thinks the Good Guys Get AGI FirstHost Nathan LabenzDoom Debates host Liron Shapira presses OpenAI technical staffer roon on extinction odds, alignment-by-default, and a plan that even he admits is balancing on razor wire.
2:11:15ENA 50% Chance of Extinction — and a $50 GPT-4 for EveryoneHost Nathan LabenzEmad Mostaque tells Nathan Labenz why he puts p(doom) at even odds, why a five-watt model changes the energy debate, and how the Intelligent Internet would fund universal basic AI with a Bitcoin-like token.
2:40:58ENZvi Mowshowitz Still Puts P(doom) at 60%—and Says Not Updating Is Self-DeceptionHost Nathan LabenzA six-month recap with the Don't Worry About the Vase author covering Ilya’s SSI, OpenAI’s o1, Claude’s computer use, the SB 1047 veto, and Trump’s return.
1:59:30ENHe Walked Away From Millions in OpenAI Equity — Then Wrote Four Rules for AGI LabsHost Nathan LabenzDaniel Kokotajlo and Dean W. Ball disagree on AI regulation, yet jointly argue that frontier labs need capability disclosures, public model specs, safety cases, and whistleblower protections.
1:15:17ENAn AI Arms Race Is Not Physics. It Is a Choice.Host Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz argues with Trump’s former NSC cyber director over China, chips, and whether words can stop a militarized AI race.
1:10:29ENWe Can Name Dystopias on Cue. A Desirable Future Is Harder to ImagineHost Nathan LabenzNick Bostrom and Spencer Greenberg talk through Deep Utopia: what meaning looks like if advanced AI actually solves the world’s pressing problems.
1:40:13ENIf I Were Governor, I Would Sign: California's Last Debate Over SB 1047Host Nathan LabenzThree guests return to unpack the rewritten frontier-AI bill as OpenAI opposes it, Anthropic calls it workable, and a final vote looms in Sacramento.
1:32:45ENHe doubled a company with AI — then asked the labs to pause hyperscalingHost Nathan LabenzOn the Nick Halaris Show, Cognitive Revolution host Nathan Labenz argues for adopting today's models fast and slowing the race to systems more powerful than we are.
1:23:10ENThe night Flo Crivello slept five hours: GPT-4 never hit a wallHost Nathan LabenzThe Lindy AI founder walks Nathan Labenz through timelines, misuse, open-source risk, and why two longtime libertarians now want regulation.
2:15:39ENRoman Yampolskiy Puts Superintelligent Ruin at 99.99 PercentGuest Roman Yampolskiy · Host Lex FridmanThe AI safety researcher tells Lex Fridman that controlling AGI is as impossible as a perpetual motion machine, and that tests, open source, and regulation cannot close the gap.
46:20ENOne Vector Made the Assistant Plot to Take Over the WorldHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz and Robert Wright pick apart AI doom, mechanistic interpretability, and why today's alignment tricks are not expected to work.
3:07:27ENFive Billion Dead, and One Person Has Six MinutesGuest Annie Jacobsen · Host Lex FridmanAnnie Jacobsen walks Lex Fridman from a second-by-second nuclear exchange to CIA secrecy, Area 51, and why she still wants the word “could” kept in the sentence.
1:29:21EN2,700 AI Authors, No Consensus: Even Odds of HLMI in 2047, 5% ExtinctionHost Nathan LabenzKatja Grace of AI Impacts walks Nathan Labenz through a survey of researchers who published in top venues in 2022—and why the field’s only real consensus is uncertainty plus more safety work.
3:04:22ENA Ten-Page Memo Told Tucker Carlson Not to Interview PutinGuest Tucker Carlson · Host Lex FridmanAfter eight days in Moscow, Carlson tells Lex Fridman why he let Vladimir Putin talk, what Navalny’s death does and does not prove, and why he thinks Washington is blocking a settlement in Ukraine.
2:53:09ENFear is the civilization killer: Guillaume Verdon on e/acc, thermodynamics, and being unmaskedGuest Guillaume Verdon · Host Lex FridmanThe physicist behind BasedBeffJezos tells Lex Fridman why out-of-equilibrium thermodynamics, anonymity, and a meme movement are his answer to AI deceleration.
1:28:07ENThe AIs We're Most Afraid Of Don't Exist Yet — So She's Studying Amoebas and Firm BoundariesHost Nathan LabenzNora Ammann of PIBBSS argues that intelligent behavior may share principles across brains, cells, markets, and future AI — and that we need those other systems because we cannot trial-and-error the ones that would be too powerful to get wrong.
59:24ENIf You Only Trust What You Can See, You Miss Most of the UniverseGuest Lisa Randall · Host Lex FridmanHarvard physicist Lisa Randall talks with Lex Fridman about dark matter, dinosaur extinctions, the LHC, and why a theory is only as good as the measurement that can kill it.
2:16:46ENPhysics is the law. Everything else is a recommendationGuest Elon Musk · Host Lex FridmanOn his fourth Lex Fridman podcast, Elon Musk runs first-principles math on Gaza, Ukraine, Grok, aliens, and the coming shortage of useful compute per watt.
1:03:46ENWhen Code Costs a Dime, You Throw the App AwayHost Nathan LabenzLindy founder Flo Crivello tells Nathan Labenz how an AI employee learns APIs from documentation, why GPT-4 made quality the only metric that matters, and why even he wants aviation-style rules for AI.
2:44:47ENThe Next Machines Will Steal Intimacy, Not Just AttentionGuest Yuval Noah Harari · Host Lex FridmanHistorian Yuval Noah Harari tells Lex Fridman how stories built civilization, why fascism looks beautiful in the mirror, and why AI is the first tool that takes power away from humans.
1:11:11ENOne of the Most Hated Men in the World Disagrees With the PremiseGuest Benjamin Netanyahu · Host Lex FridmanIn a compressed hour with Lex Fridman, Benjamin Netanyahu recasts hate, judicial reform, AI, and Israeli–Palestinian peace as problems of timing, balance, and sequence.
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