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Zhang Xiaojun Podcast· Mar 31, 2026Podcast · 2 speakersXie Chen on the Data Pyramid Behind Robotics and AIGuest Xie Chen · Host 张小珺The Guanglun Intelligence founder explains how real-robot experience, simulation and human demonstrations could work together, and why evaluation matters as much as data volume.
2:06:16ZH → EnglishZhang Xiaojun Podcast· Nov 28, 2025Podcast · 2 speakersTan Jie on Data Bottlenecks, Generalist Robots, and the Road to Real-World RoboticsGuest 谭捷 · Host 张小珺Google DeepMind robotics researcher Tan Jie traces his path from computer graphics to robotics and from reinforcement learning to Gemini Robotics. He argues that data scale and coverage, cross-embodiment transfer, real-time reasoning, and safety remain key to bringing robot foundation models into the real world.