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50:57ENA Trillion Dollars of GPUs Will Be Worth $100 Billion in Five Years, Says LSTM's Jürgen SchmidhuberHost Jacob EffronThe AI pioneer tells Unsupervised Learning's Jacob Effron why he is wildly optimistic about the technology and deeply pessimistic about the model companies buying the chips.
1:13:33ENA Trillion Tokens Later, the Concept Finally Lands: Łukasz Kaiser on What Transformers Still MissHost Jacob EffronThe Attention Is All You Need co-author tells Unsupervised Learning that transformers will probably keep winning — and that they still do not learn the way people do.
1:21:56ENYann LeCun Left Meta Because LLMs Will Not Get You to IntelligenceHost Jacob EffronThe Turing Award winner tells Jacob Effron why he spun AMI Labs out of Meta, why JEPA-style world models beat pixel generators, and why he thinks Hinton changed his mind in 2023.
58:46ENTwo Dates from OpenAI's Chief Scientist: Intern by September, Automated Researcher by 2028Host Jacob EffronJakub Pachocki tells Jacob Effron why those timelines still hold, why continual learning is not a detour, and why showing chain of thought in the product would train the monitor away.
1:03:00ENA Model That Solves New Math Problems Every Week Still Isn't AGIHost Jacob EffronFormer OpenAI research VP Jerry Tworek on why scaling still works, why models go hopeless when they fail, and why he left to chase continual learning.
1:18:05ENThe Real Bottleneck in AI Research Is Compute, Not IdeasHost Jacob EffronAfter NeurIPS, Ari Morcos and Rob Toews sit down with Jacob Effron to argue about plateauing models, SSI’s secrecy, OpenAI’s cash burn, and a set of spicy 2026 bets.
57:31ENThe New Ruler for Models Is How Long They Can WorkHost Jacob EffronOn Claude 4's launch day, Anthropic researcher Sholto Douglas argued that the next phase of AI is less about harder puzzles and more about hours of unsupervised work.
1:10:23ENA Million Tokens per Dollar: Why Noam Shazeer Thinks Inference Compute Is Still UntappedHost Jacob EffronThe Transformer co-inventor and Gemini researcher Jack Rae walk through test-time compute, Ilya Sutskever's AGI critique, and a four-year-old who now lectures his teacher about lizards.
1:06:48ENo1 Is Slow and Hard to Use. Percy Liang Still Calls It a Turning PointHost Jacob EffronStanford’s Percy Liang splits OpenAI’s o1 into a disappointing product and the most important research signal in years.
1:10:19ENThe Robot That Folded the Laundry: Physical Intelligence’s Three FrontiersHost Jacob EffronKarol Hausman and Danny Driess explain how robot foundation models moved from coded primitives to web-scale pretraining, and why performance is now the hard gate.
58:19ENRunway's Chris Valenzuela on Why Taste Beats Tools in Generative MediaHost Jacob EffronChris Valenzuela, CEO of Runway, explains why generative media is still early, how taste and iteration shape the work, and what has to change before AI media becomes a new art form.
57:25ENFrom RAG to Reasoning: Why the Future of AI Is a System, Not a ModelHost Jacob EffronDouwe Kiela explains what OpenAI's o1 reveals about test-time compute, why enterprise AI must be specialized, and where post-training and evaluations are heading.








