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53:48ENMustafa Suleyman on AI Consciousness, Containment, and Human ControlGuest Mustafa Suleyman · Host Walter IsaacsonIn a conversation with Walter Isaacson, Microsoft AI’s CEO explains his disagreement over model welfare and the safeguards he believes increasingly capable systems need.
57:47ENPeter Thiel on AI Acceleration, Global Power, and the Values of Its BuildersGuest Peter Thiel · Host Walter IsaacsonWalter Isaacson challenges Peter Thiel on AI risk, concentrated power, and the moral responsibilities of visionary founders. Thiel argues that stopping progress carries dangers of its own.
37:14ENElon Musk on AI Control, Robot Abundance, and His Regrets About DOGEGuest Elon Musk · Host Walter IsaacsonWalter Isaacson asks Elon Musk how humanity can remain safe and find purpose as AI grows more capable, and challenges him on politics, empathy, and the future he is building.









