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42:06ENDario and Daniela Amodei on Building Anthropic, AI Safety, and Human MeaningGuest Dario Amodei, Daniela Amodei · Host Walter IsaacsonThe Anthropic co-founders discuss the roots of their partnership, the challenge of keeping AI systems honest, and the choices facing a world of more capable models.
57:47ENPeter Thiel on AI Acceleration, Global Power, and the Values of Its BuildersGuest Peter Thiel · Host Walter IsaacsonWalter Isaacson challenges Peter Thiel on AI risk, concentrated power, and the moral responsibilities of visionary founders. Thiel argues that stopping progress carries dangers of its own.
37:14ENElon Musk on AI Control, Robot Abundance, and His Regrets About DOGEGuest Elon Musk · Host Walter IsaacsonWalter Isaacson asks Elon Musk how humanity can remain safe and find purpose as AI grows more capable, and challenges him on politics, empathy, and the future he is building.









