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Lex Fridman· Dec 8, 2021Podcast · 2 speakersJamie Metzl Puts the Lab-Leak Odds at 85 PercentGuest Jamie Metzl · Host Lex FridmanThe genetic-engineering author walks Lex Fridman through the circumstantial case for a Wuhan accident, the cover-up he says is no longer debatable, and why the next pandemic will be decided by transparency, not blame.
1:26:53ENLex Fridman· Nov 5, 2021Podcast · 2 speakersFrancis Collins Cannot Exclude a Lab LeakGuest Francis Collins · Host Lex FridmanThe outgoing NIH director talks with Lex Fridman about COVID origins, gain-of-function research, Anthony Fauci, vaccines, and why scientific certainty is the wrong pose.
2:59:12ENLex Fridman· Jun 20, 2021Podcast · 2 speakersNature Never Dealt This CardGuest Rob Reid · Host Lex FridmanIn 2011 two labs independently engineered H5N1 so it could travel through the air between mammals — work Rob Reid tells Lex Fridman should never have been done, and still has not been stopped.