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1:21:35ENLook Outside the Building: Shaun Clowes on Why Most PMs Fall Short and How AI Changes the JobGuest Shaun Clowes · Host Lenny RachitskyConfluent's chief product officer explains how to become a far better product manager, why data matters more than models, and what AI will and won't do to SaaS.
1:07:08ENIf the Model Is the Product, the Eval Is the PRD: Inside Mercor's RiseGuest Brendan Foody · Host Lenny RachitskyMercor CEO Brendan Foody explains why AI labs will pay almost anything for expert-written evals, how his company grew from $1 million to a $400 million run rate in 16 months, and what that means for jobs and founders.
1:10:32ENA Billion Dollars, No VC, Under 100 People: Surge AI's Edwin Chen on Data Quality and Where AI Is HeadingGuest Edwin Chen · Host Lenny RachitskySurge AI's founder explains how a bootstrapped team built the leading human-data company, why he distrusts benchmarks, and how reinforcement learning environments are the next frontier.
1:24:01ENFrom Sandwich Math to Expert Data: Scale AI's CEO on What Actually Makes Models SmarterHost Lenny RachitskyJason Droege explains what really happened with Meta's investment in Scale AI, how data labeling turned into expert work, and what Uber Eats taught him about building businesses.
1:19:56ENAnalytics With a Seat at the Table: How DoorDash Builds a Centralized Data TeamGuest Jessica Lachs · Host Lenny RachitskyDoorDash analytics chief Jessica Lachs explains why she keeps data scientists in one central org, how she hires for curiosity, and how she picks metrics that actually move a business.
1:09:51ENFrom Campus Job Board to AI Data Powerhouse: How Handshake Hit $50M ARR in Four MonthsGuest Garrett Lord · Host Lenny RachitskyHandshake CEO Garrett Lord explains what expert data labeling actually involves and how a decade-old student network became a supplier to seven frontier AI labs.







