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1:06:47ENEighty percent of what agents do should still be ordinary codeHost Nathan LabenzZapier CEO Wade Foster tells Nathan Labenz that models top out at 40% on real automation tasks, users will not leave their daily driver, and the winning move is headless tools delivered through MCP.
2:23:43ENHe Bought an Android, Two SIMs, and Left Claude Watching His InboxHost Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz asked a dozen friends how to visit China and got two irreconcilable answers.
2:12:51ENSteve Newman’s fifteen-app stack exists so he only has to look at one screenHost Nathan LabenzThe Writely founder walks Nathan Labenz through a vibe-coded attention firewall, a conservative security stance, and why astonishing models still leave him far from AGI.
1:27:01ENThe $16 Trillion Services Market Is Being Bought, Not Sold ToHost Nathan LabenzMarc Bhargava of General Catalyst explains how AI-enabled rollups turn low-margin service firms into compounding, software-like businesses.
1:28:48ENDoctors code at 45%. The model beat them by 12 points — then 4,000 physicians had to try it once.Host Nathan LabenzAmbience Healthcare and Cleveland Clinic walk through the AI scribe that cut pajama time, climbed ICD-10 with reinforcement fine-tuning, and won 75% voluntary use.
3:08:35ENo3 isn't AGI. Zvi Mowshowitz still put p(doom) at 70 percentHost Nathan LabenzOn his ninth visit to The Cognitive Revolution, Zvi Mowshowitz argues that OpenAI's o3 is a tool-use leap rather than AGI, then explains why he raised the probability of AI catastrophe anyway.
55:05EN400,000 Customers, 100 Million AI Tasks: Zapier’s CEO on Making Computers Do More WorkHost Nathan LabenzWade Foster tells Nathan Labenz how a no-code automation company absorbed LLMs, cloned its CEO with a prompt, and is trying to turn a DIY toolkit into packaged solutions.
2:03:55ENThe More You Constrain an Agent, the More You Can Trust ItHost Nathan LabenzAgent.ai engineering lead Andrei Oprisan tells Nathan Labenz why narrow, highly prescribed workflows beat open-ended autonomy — and how a 12-person team shipped a free agent network past 40,000 users in a few months.
1:51:00ENStart With Ten Gold Examples: A Three-Step Playbook for AI AutomationHost Nathan LabenzThe day after OpenAI opened GPT-4o fine-tuning, Nathan Labenz unpacks a three-year method for choosing work, extracting tacit judgment, and raising model performance.
2:00:03ENPatients Rated GPT-4 More Empathetic Than DoctorsHost Nathan LabenzAzeem Azhar of Exponential View maps the AI S-curve for Nathan Labenz: why the past always looks flat, why empathy went first, and what a million times more compute would actually change.
1:50:57ENTwenty-Eight Days After GPT-4, an AI Designed and Ran a Chemistry ExperimentHost Nathan LabenzGabe Gomes and his Carnegie Mellon students built Coscientist, a language-model agent that plans, codes, and executes real experiments on a remote cloud lab.
1:18:39ENThe GPT-4 Red-Teamer Who Got Unstuck by a Mediocre OutlineHost Nathan LabenzDan Shipper shows Nathan Labenz how to use ChatGPT as a copilot for thinking, not as a ghostwriter for his own voice.
1:30:21ENA Million DALL-E Images, Distilled into Twelve Minutes of FilmHost Nathan LabenzWaymark’s Stephen Parker and Josh Rubin walk through how they turned stills from DALL-E 2 into The Frost, a narrative short, and what the next generation of video models changes.
39:02ENAI’s product advantage is consistency. Its real weakness is getting conned.Host Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz updates the Cognitive Revolution scouting report: jailbreaks, resume automation, Med-PaLM’s 40% radiology win, and what might follow Transformers.
1:30:29ENGPT-4 Wins Ten Times More Bill Fights: DoNotPay's Robot-Lawyer WarHost Nathan LabenzGPT-3 thanked Comcast for twenty dollars off. GPT-4 said that was not enough — and the robot lawyer called it an arms race.
1:10:11ENTrying ChatGPT is not the same as using itHost Nathan LabenzRachel Woods of The AI Exchange tells Nathan Labenz what she learned from more than a hundred company calls: start inside the business, skip the annual tool contract, and expect to be using only a sliver of what the models can already do.
58:26ENSeventy Percent of the Inbox Is a Pitch: Matt Welsh on the First Wave of AI AgentsHost Nathan LabenzThe Fixie.ai founder maps copilot versus delegation, the missing appendages into our systems, and why agents will need guardrails, memory hygiene, and probably an earpiece.
1:25:46ENDon't Make the Tools Agentic: Flo Crivello on What Production Agents Actually NeedHost Nathan LabenzThe Lindy CEO tells Nathan Labenz that most working agents are intelligent workflows with human-designed control flow — and that scaffolding may still matter even if AGI arrives.








