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1:55:02ENAn Index Fund on AGI: How MATS Filters the Next 120 AI Safety ResearchersModeration: Nathan LabenzRyan Kidd, co-executive director of MATS, tells Nathan Labenz why he will not shout a timeline, why every safety technique is also a capabilities technique, and who actually gets hired.
1:32:41ENThere are maybe 5,000 people who can train frontier models. The rest need AI engineersModeration: Nathan LabenzSwyx of Latent Space tells Nathan Labenz how a new job is forming, why OpenAI will Sherlock its developers, and what still does not count as an agent.








