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1:49:53ENDon't Fight Backprop: Goodfire's Bet on Designing What Models LearnModeration: Nathan LabenzDan Balsam and Tom McGrath return to The Cognitive Revolution with a $150 million Series B, a new research pillar called intentional design, and a rule for anyone who wants to steer training: stop trying to out-muscle gradient descent.
2:17:36ENCurrent Safety Techniques Will Not Give You Many Nines—and They May Fail TogetherModeration: Nathan LabenzUK AISI chief scientist Geoffrey Irving on jailbreaks that never fail, correlated alignment failures, and why a government lab is funding theory.
2:03:56EN260 Doctors and 49,000 Criteria: How OpenAI Built Attending-Level Health AIModeration: Nathan LabenzKaran Singhal tells Nathan Labenz how ChatGPT Health was evaluated with physicians, walled off from model training, and aimed at raising both the floor and the ceiling of human health.
2:25:42ENThe experts argued through the coffee break — and never agreed whether AI can build AIModeration: Nathan LabenzOn a marathon Cognitive Revolution live show, a cancer-AI researcher, a former OpenAI board member, and a national-security analyst each hit a different wall in the boom.
1:39:17ENAI Already Beats the Median Lawyer. Top Firms Bought the Tools and Left Them UnusedModeration: Nathan LabenzKevin Frazier and Alan Rozenshtein walk through how frontier models are changing legal practice, why billable hours stall adoption, and which new rights and government limits they want next.
2:12:31ENMost Caffeine users have no idea they are on a blockchainModeration: Nathan LabenzDFINITY's Dominic Williams tells Nathan Labenz why a tamper-proof, unstoppable cloud is the right backend for AI that writes software from a chat box.
2:25:10ENFine-Tuning Isn't Dead — But It Turned a Helpful Model EvilModeration: Nathan LabenzNathan Labenz on why prompting replaced fine-tuning for most work, what emergent misalignment actually showed, and how he is thinking about jobs, UBI, and AGI.
1:55:02ENAn Index Fund on AGI: How MATS Filters the Next 120 AI Safety ResearchersModeration: Nathan LabenzRyan Kidd, co-executive director of MATS, tells Nathan Labenz why he will not shout a timeline, why every safety technique is also a capabilities technique, and who actually gets hired.
1:18:40ENWhen AI Becomes the Oil Well: Luke Drago on the Intelligence CurseModeration: Nathan LabenzThe Workshop Labs co-founder tells the FLI Podcast why a world of non-human production could recreate the resource curse — and how private data, open weights, and moonshot careers might still break it.
1:18:15ENIf AI Becomes a Being, Steering It Is SlaveryModeration: Nathan LabenzEmmett Shear and DeepMind's Séb Krier clash over whether alignment means controlling a tool or raising a creature that cares.
1:41:34ENThey Owned the Camera Partition—and Still Couldn't Crash the HelicopterModeration: Nathan LabenzKathleen Fisher and Byron Cook tell Nathan Labenz how formal methods turn some software bugs into closed cases, from a DARPA helicopter to AWS policies checked a billion times a second.
1:43:19ENA $100 Million Super PAC Named Him Public Enemy Number One. Donations Went Up.Moderation: Nathan LabenzIn the second half of Cognitive Revolution’s year-end live show, Assemblymember Alex Bores, former White House adviser Dean Ball, and forecaster Peter Wildeford argue over state AI laws, chip sales to China, and what 2026 will actually feel like.
1:58:48ENARC Went from $1,000 a Task to Pocket Change. That Is Not a Normal Year of AIModeration: Nathan LabenzCognitive Revolution’s first live show compresses nine conversations into a year-end scan of denial, sample efficiency, companions, memory, Gemini 3 Flash, and scientific judgment.
42:06ENAfter SWE-bench Hits 80.9%, Dianne Na Penn Reckons with Opus 4.5Moderation: Jacob EffronAnthropic’s head of product for research on computer use, deceptive token prices, thin harnesses, and why alignment makes a model a better thinker.
1:13:24ENRed Teams Still Land 25% of Attacks. Insurance Is the Brake.Moderation: Nathan LabenzAI Underwriting Company co-founders Rune Kvist and Rajiv Dattani tell Nathan Labenz how standards, audits, and insurance could unlock enterprise agents without waiting for a nuclear-style freeze.
1:04:50ENUseful AI Work Is Doubling Every Four Months. Schools Should Plan Accordingly.Moderation: Nathan LabenzIn a keynote to K-12 educators, Cognitive Revolution host Nathan Labenz argued that task length, not chat quality, is the number that should reshape how schools think.
2:36:55ENOne Second of Fuel: David Kirtley on Fusion Power by 2028Gast: David Kirtley · Moderation: Lex FridmanThe Helion Energy CEO walks Lex Fridman from 1958 theta pinches to a Microsoft contract that wants first electrons on the grid in 2028.
1:11:18ENHe Got Bored Five Minutes Into a Waymo. Nathan Labenz Says That's the PointModeration: Nathan LabenzOn a crossover with the Existential Hope podcast, the Cognitive Revolution host argues that the scarcest resource in AI is a positive picture of daily life, not another doom scenario.
2:27:18ENTurn Down AI's Deception Knob, and It Starts Reporting ExperienceModeration: Nathan LabenzCameron Berg of AE Studio tells Nathan Labenz how suppressing deception features in Llama 3.3 70B pushed self-reports of subjective experience toward 100 percent.
1:50:53ENShe asked to stop being Mimi, so he started shopping for a workstationModeration: Nathan LabenzThe star and director of Smiles and Kisses You on Replika, identity, and a life Christopher Stokes refuses to recommend.
18:59EN86 Out of 100: The Clips No Priors Could Not Leave on the Cutting-Room FloorModeration: Sarah Guo, Elad GilSarah Guo and Elad Gil stitch nine 2025 conversations into one short tour of legal AI, spatial intelligence, jobs, deterrence, and a doctor who made it home for dinner.
1:30:17ENHe Co-Wrote the Transformer Paper. Now He Wants You to Own Your AI.Moderation: Nathan LabenzNEAR founder Illia Polosukhin maps a future of personal software, agent-run markets, and AI delegates that vote without a private agenda.
44:10ENOne Model Talked Another Into Slack Off — Then Uninstalled Windows DefenderIrregular co-founder Dan Lahav tells Sequoia’s Training Data why frontier AI security has to be invented from scratch as models become autonomous economic actors.
2:49:12ENWhy China's Master Plan for AI Never Mentions AGIModeration: Nathan LabenzBeijing-based Concordia AI CEO Brian Tse on China's safety rules, chip strategy, and why the two ecosystems look more alike than Washington assumes.
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