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48:00ENA Two-Second Vote Is Training Models to Be ClickbaitModeration: Jacob EffronSurge AI CEO Edwin Chen tells Redpoint why LMArena rewards length and emojis, how one lab's models got worse for a year, and why frontier labs are no longer on the same path.
54:53ENA Free Voting Board Burned $2 Million. Then It Raised $100 Million.Moderation: Jacob EffronDatabricks co-founder Ion Stoica explains why LMArena exists, why China is winning open-source models, and why reliability—not another scaling law—is still the thing holding AI back.
47:00ENAn Eval Lasts Three Months — and a Frozen Frontier Would Still Feed Startups for a DecadeModeration: Jacob EffronOpenAI’s GPT-4.1 post-training lead Michelle Pokrass tells Unsupervised Learning how the team spent three months on evals before training, why agents fail on wiring more than intelligence, and when to reach for RFT.
57:11ENA Million Tokens Cannot Write a Good JokeModeration: Jacob EffronPrinceton's Arvind Narayanan on why agent evals mislead, inference scaling hits a wall, and AI looks more like the internet than an overnight revolution.









