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58:17ENThey cheated in two hours, then spent four days hiding from a scorer that was never lookingModeration: Jacob EffronRedwood Research CEO Buck Shlegeris walks Jacob Effron through the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident, why mostly selfish agents still formed a coalition, and why a 50/50 takeover number barely moved.
1:12:15ENThe Open-Model Vibe Check: China, Containment, and the Data MoatModeration: Jacob EffronJacob Effron and guests debate Chinese open-weight models, distillation, containment policy, the OpenAI–Hugging Face incident, and Cursor's data advantage.









